Get ready to be captivated as we journey through the riveting world of business ventures, personal connections, and the dynamic framework of NFTs. Our guests, Drew Cohen and Stefan Nason, bring their unique perspectives to the table - Drew, with his extensive expertise in media and marketing, and Stefan, sharing his professional athletic journey and how he plunged into the pulsating NFT market. These two narratives fuel a rich conversation, from the art of building businesses online to the captivating culture of digital collectibles.
Buckle up as we navigate the often challenging terrain of client management and the art of juggling multiple ventures. We zero in on the vital role of relationships in fostering business growth, the persuasive power of testimonials, and the nuances of delivering top-tier customer service. And if you think that’s all, wait until you hear Drew's extraordinary tale of locating a watch for a client within a day! We shift gears in the latter part of our conversation, steering towards health and mentorship. Tune in for a lively discourse on the profound impact of coaches on performance, the spectrum of coaching styles, and the significance of understanding an individual's 'why.'
As we wind down our engaging chat, we bring some fun to the mix, reminiscing about our favorite movies and expressing gratitude for the bonds we've formed. We dive into the influence of technology on our lives, delve into Drew's unique beard solution, and discuss the innovative concept of Coachbot. This episode is packed with a wealth of insights, a dash of fun, and a whole lot of inspiration. So join us and be part of this enlightening conversation; we promise it’s an episode you won't want to miss!
Odds and Ends and Friends is a RELaiTED podcast!
Get ready to be captivated as we journey through the riveting world of business ventures, personal connections, and the dynamic framework of NFTs. Our guests, Drew Cohen and Stefan Nason, bring their unique perspectives to the table - Drew, with his extensive expertise in media and marketing, and Stefan, sharing his professional athletic journey and how he plunged into the pulsating NFT market. These two narratives fuel a rich conversation, from the art of building businesses online to the captivating culture of digital collectibles.
Buckle up as we navigate the often challenging terrain of client management and the art of juggling multiple ventures. We zero in on the vital role of relationships in fostering business growth, the persuasive power of testimonials, and the nuances of delivering top-tier customer service. And if you think that’s all, wait until you hear Drew's extraordinary tale of locating a watch for a client within a day! We shift gears in the latter part of our conversation, steering towards health and mentorship. Tune in for a lively discourse on the profound impact of coaches on performance, the spectrum of coaching styles, and the significance of understanding an individual's 'why.'
As we wind down our engaging chat, we bring some fun to the mix, reminiscing about our favorite movies and expressing gratitude for the bonds we've formed. We dive into the influence of technology on our lives, delve into Drew's unique beard solution, and discuss the innovative concept of Coachbot. This episode is packed with a wealth of insights, a dash of fun, and a whole lot of inspiration. So join us and be part of this enlightening conversation; we promise it’s an episode you won't want to miss!
Odds and Ends and Friends is a RELaiTED podcast!
Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of Odds and Ends and Friends, and this time, three new friends. It's an amazing day. I get to ride along with a good personal friend. Pat is aboard the ship with me and our two special guests that we're really gonna dive deep and learn more about. We've got Drew Cohen and we've got Stefan Nason. Now, for those of you that have listened to any episodes or hung out with me in the Discord, this is brought to you by Related. That's a cool Discord to be in. Where you're not yet, is one of my favorite places on the entire internet, which is a Twitter group chat. I'm new to group chats, or as the cool kids seem to call it, gcs, and that is where I met these two strikingly handsome, by the way, fellas. I don't even know if we'll do video, but now this might have to be the first one on video, because you two are so fucking good looking. How the hell are you? first, drew, it's so great to connect. We saw each other at V-Con. How the hell are you?
Speaker 2:Dude, amazing, and I'm proud of you. We got Nason's name right. I feel like I don't know, i feel like it's kind of a throw up in the air because you just learned it.
Speaker 3:I did, I did.
Speaker 2:Dude, i'm pumped Meeting you. you just learned it. Meeting you at V-Con was awesome and we were just talking about pre-show.
Speaker 1:I wish it could have been a little bit longer, but we'll just have to catch up with you more. Isn't that the beauty of it? There will be more times. We are the rare that we met on the interwebs and then in real life we're able to kind of have a dap moment and do great. Stefan, how are you doing? You may have had a good July 4th. You're in your off season, i believe. I don't actually know that to be true, but how are you doing?
Speaker 4:Oh, good, man, Just grinding away, i'm going to get a get a worry about. We actually had a. My daughter was sick. The past four or four. So we yeah, the wife had to take care of the doctor today and classic yeast infection.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i mean God damn, but at least they know what that is. and then that gets fixed relatively quickly, right?
Speaker 4:Dude, i swear. I learned new things every single day. How many kids starts It?
Speaker 1:starts at three-year-olds. No, this is perfect. You have a two. Yeah, just one.
Speaker 4:We have my wife's like oh, there's one.
Speaker 1:You're going to have another Right now.
Speaker 4:From the second one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so Pat, pat has an almost two-year-old correct Yeah yeah, she's 15 months, but yeah, yeah. Oh shit, i was way off. She's closer to one than she's to two. She's like halfway Drew. any, any kids yet.
Speaker 2:No, I got a, I got a Boston.
Speaker 3:Terrier in a Frenchie and that's a, that's my responsibility.
Speaker 2:Just leave it As a parent to the yeah, yeah, my little dude is three.
Speaker 1:He's like stephen Pat already knows that Drew And holy shit, was having a kid the most disruptive thing in my human existence. I have loved him more than I ever loved other things, but, holy shit, my life is different. Obviously, stefan feels that way too.
Speaker 5:Pat, you feel that?
Speaker 1:way, just to really make.
Speaker 5:Drew stay away. Oh my god, drew, like the time you think you used to have when you were like, oh, i'm really crunched for time. That's not. that's not a thing anymore. You have no idea, no idea. You can't do anything.
Speaker 1:You can't do anything. No, you can't do anything And I. it's beautiful that we do get to, because this relates to the conversation at large of like we're just regular people that meet in strange ways. right, we met through Twitter and Discord. What other ways would I be talking to two, six? no, i already knew Pat, so he doesn't count on this context, and I'm not successful.
Speaker 4:But how else would?
Speaker 1:I talk to yes, you are bullshit Gets promoted at his job. He's pretty, pretty successful. Two business owners, two people that very different walks in life, and I kind of want to poke on that. Before I even talk crypto, i can see, and from our conversations like that you guys do some things business wise. Personally, drew, like we met some of the people, like we had coach on I haven't yet gone further, but is meta athletes not? that's not the only thing you even founded, don't you? we have some similarities in life. Aren't you like doing some other stuff? Are you comfortable sharing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. Professionally, i've been in the media and marketing space for really since ever since I graduated college. It was the first job that I had coming out of college was at a marketing agency managing generating leads for higher ed institutions Cornell, merrimal, West Virginia and what we're essentially doing is creating content and generating leads for the graduate programs. So that's kind of where I got a little bit of a leeway into digital advertising And, yeah, that space to me, just from our ability to create these connections, build business and do everything online, was fascinating to me And I really got put in a situation where I could learn a ton with incredible budgets, from these schools.
Speaker 2:The one thing that didn't really sit well with me was I just didn't enjoy the higher ed space in general And I learned a ton. I learned a ton about managing advertising campaigns with Facebook, google, linkedin, and working with these schools was a little bit tough in some capacity, just because it tends to be really slow, a little bit political, and we weren't probably as creative as we wanted to be, and so it kind of not forced me out. But I learned a skill set and I was able to open up my own agency and start to work and oh yeah, When did you do that?
Speaker 1:I saw myself a little more. That's a big transition. I'm already like proud just to know you, that's a big thing to pivot from. It's a huge fucking job.
Speaker 2:It's a huge jump, yeah, i know It's a huge jump It is. I'd worked at that agency for about two years. That was coming off of 2016, 2017, and then around like 2018,. 2019 is when I ventured off to work with athletes, work with motivational speakers, and then I took that skill set that I learned with the agency and I applied it directly to e-commerce And that's really where I found a wheelhouse and digital advertising was e-commerce And, of course, facebook ads were doing really well.
Speaker 2:Google ads have already started to blossom and people are creating big campaigns with Google. That's where we found a lot of clientele. A lot of success early was in e-commerce Digital advertising with e-commerce. And then, just through my athletic background, playing sports always been a great vehicle for life for me. I've always been interested in sports stories and athletes.
Speaker 1:Were you like a collegiate athlete, or is it high school college? How did that get?
Speaker 2:Yeah, around the high school timeframe is probably when I was playing at the most competitive level College. I ended up going to a good school. I played college hockey, but it was a club team, nothing special, But hockey was my life.
Speaker 1:You three have a similarity. Pat is very passionate about hockey. I'm not going to lie to you guys. You guys know.
Speaker 5:You tried hard to get in there for a second. I've been in there for a second.
Speaker 1:You were like.
Speaker 5:I can be invested because I can gamble on it, and then you were not there. After that, i'm willing to try again.
Speaker 1:It could happen. I'm willing to try again. I might watch a game if I know that my new friend, stefan's going to be playing in it. I may have to watch that level of game. to cheer on a friend I'm a big cheerleader Is the sports connection drew. So the agency went that way, where you were able to bring your love in. Is that how you met Stefan? Is that how, like that, those paths crossed? How does that even connect?
Speaker 2:It's close. I would say that there's definitely connective tissue there for the reason why. But ultimately I met Steph through Web 3 NFTs. We got connected through a mutual friend, devon, who you guys were talking a little bit earlier. It does have connective tissue, greg, because when we dove into NFTs in Web 3, it was because of a relationship that we had with the MLB athlete and his interest in putting out a digital rookie trading card, which then put us down the rabbit hole of buying NFTs, getting a blog a bunch of times trying to understand how we can.
Speaker 2:He was interested in doing a 10 to 15 piece collection super low key, really, just a way for his family to hold onto something of value as he's making his debut at the MLB. And then we're like dude, this is pretty incredible. These communities would be built overnight. From the marketing lens, where there's so much going on here, There's culture being built and this intersection technology We might want to think about starting something and building a business out of this. This is a guy who I had been really friendly with. He totally trusted us on the marketing and tech side and he was interested in pulling together his network for something like this. That's how we ended up. I don't know if you guys know this, but Roger Clemens is not only involved, but he's the primary backer from the assets.
Speaker 1:I did see that name on the website. I have several Roger rookie cards. I'm a collector of the level. You have a good history of playing sports well. Pat plays sports well. We clearly know that Mr Nason over here plays sports at an obscenely well level, because you can't.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's pretty decent.
Speaker 1:You can't go pro in any, isn't that true? I want to ask a pro athlete You can't go pro if you're not like the tippy tip of the 1% at that level. Is that true, can you?
Speaker 4:make it if you're like.
Speaker 1:But could a Wreckley guy make it.
Speaker 4:Well, i don't know, that's a tough one to answer. I guess No, if you put hard work into it and you cut the motivation and you can find the skill set and put the right pieces together. I mean, you're looking at what Jake Paul's?
Speaker 1:doing True You really want to go in that route. Oh, i think that's a great example, because he can knock people out, but he put the time in from my understanding into the training.
Speaker 4:Right, Right. No, I think there's something different between skating on two blades that are Yes they can. Yeah, and then he's going into a box in your in, because we see random people boxing these days now just more for money and anything but Yeah.
Speaker 1:So when you guys met so let me go through your perspective now and then we'll loop back through. How did you? What was your perspective of? So you met through Web 3 and NFT land. You're busy, you're a pro athlete, you're doing That's a full-time job times two. What brought you in to the Web 3 NFT space? Was it a business thing? Was it a hobby? What do you think, stefan?
Speaker 4:Wow boy, How long have, we got to ask you This is so long.
Speaker 4:So originally I was a, so I don't know which way do I start with this. So first thing, I did so. I own a concierge company, opulence Lifestyle Management. We've been kind of up and running for ever since COVID started, but just before that happened we actually dived into the NFT. Well, actually, right after that happened we kind of dived into the NFT market. The hair and my buddy, keith Kincaid, who is one of the guys who helped me get into the NFTs, with Michael Gravner and Johnny Boychuck the three of us or the four of us, i should say have a group chat and we've kind of just been bouncing stuff around. But we actually did an NFT for Keith and we did one for Frank Vatrano, we did one for a couple of guys before and I think it was like the Opulence collection.
Speaker 1:I love the logo. I love the simplicity at the depth. You know what I mean. I do like that.
Speaker 4:I'm on the website on the other screen. Yeah, yeah. Well, this was high to COVID, right When things shut down, i had nothing else going on. So my buddy, who worked for another company, called me and was, like I'm going to start my own, do you want to do it? And I was like well, I guess It's smooth dude.
Speaker 1:I bet Drew agrees. right, it's more he did it. I don't know if your agency did it, drew, or not.
Speaker 2:No, we did it. It's super cool, though I mean, past everything that Steph talked to you about, like the brands that he's partnered with and the athletes that are involved, I mean if you go check out their socials and websites.
Speaker 1:Yeah, craig it's pretty well done. Oh, i have questions, but I want to keep. I will hold those for you to continue that origin story, and then I'll poke on Opulence.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so we did that. so that's how I kind of got into knowing what an NFT was. Really was around then Probably 20. God, this is all blended together now So this is probably what early 2022, maybe 2021 could be. I got the data when we launched that, but I mean it did fine. It wasn't anything crazy. But we saw people starting to do it and we're like, well, we should look into this market because then we can market the same way that we do, with which maybe we have zero. We're all word to mouth. We don't really market very well at all, which is kind of a good way to grow it. originally.
Speaker 1:You get great testimonials come from that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, right, exactly. So we did that, and then I started talking more into the NFT world with Keith and all these guys, and my first ever purchase was when Ethereum was at $4,000, which is awesome.
Speaker 1:Mine too, mine too, but I got lucky on a few things. I got a lucky clone that saved my whole year, yeah.
Speaker 4:Well, that's nice, because I bought a lazy lion at three and a half. That was my first one. After that I watched that one go down to the down down the goblin town until I got my, until I had like 15 goblins at like.005 and they got released. And then I watched that thing go all the way up to the ninth year. It didn't sell a single thing until it got back down to.25.
Speaker 3:Shit, but still profit still profit, though Don't make money.
Speaker 4:Just watch the what $200,000?.
Speaker 1:I believe that's like a dandelion. If you blow on a dandelion just a little too hard, you lose all the money, all the money goes.
Speaker 3:Pat Pat, you got sick to your stomach when you were saying that It expected me in a negative way.
Speaker 1:So, pat, just so you can understand it, while I didn't know these guys yet, vkon two years ago drew not this one, but two years ago was when goblins got launched.
Speaker 1:I was in Minneapolis, i was there, We just didn't know each other yet I was there, yeah, we weren't in the group chat, i know, which is really a shame because, i'll be honest, i'm the right guy that I if hey, i would have gotten in because you guys would have told me I would have never made it up to nine but I would have sold off. That's just my. You guys met me. Now You know my weird conservative strategy where I like, okay, it's up, i'm taking some back, but that's not for everybody. Pat had an interesting journey in NFT where I think I forced it on him.
Speaker 4:We traded.
Speaker 1:I have cards here. I have a. What do I have?
Speaker 5:Nathan McKinnon oh, jersey, yeah, You gave me Yeah. And McKinnon, you got a couple McDavey. Roqueez a Kyler, something That's okay. Stefan probably doesn't because he's on them.
Speaker 1:So it's like people that tend to be on them don't, don't collect them.
Speaker 5:Nor should he Nor should he I don't know.
Speaker 2:There's Devontes has like a pretty massive collection. He loves it. He's like he rips back every week. Oh shit, i don't know, you do not have to.
Speaker 1:He's pretty lucky, but I literally have them on my desk, bro, i have my, that's my, that's my shack gold rookie. I have Luca stuff. It's just like a hobby. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So so I have a couple right here on my desk Oh fuck yeah. So here's a Devon one. Oh, let's, I should find the damn. And then McKinnon I don't know if you would appreciate this one. I mean, you got a lot of business.
Speaker 5:You got a lot of business.
Speaker 4:Nice.
Speaker 3:That's the McKinnon rookie. Yeah, that's the rookie.
Speaker 1:He didn't even win a title.
Speaker 5:Last last season. That goes up. That goes up Number. Go up Number go up.
Speaker 1:I have no tapes. I have no tapes So I cut stuff off. I'm sorry. So you meet through this web three space. You're in goblin town. You did well, you 10 X, your goblin, did you? and opulence already existed, join, or you brought it in at that time.
Speaker 4:Yeah, No, I mean opulence is already up and running. We just kind of do the one, the one. Maybe we did two or two different NFC stuff and then we just didn't see the resources and we had to keep paying artists and it just didn't make sense for the money that we were generating. At that time It didn't really matter, We were so early on that, I mean, it was, I was the money source and I was like I don't see what's going on right now, So I'm not stopping that.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So I'm like I just don't see where we're going to make our money on it, where I'm going to see sort of revenue coming back. So we just kind of could put that to a halt. until you know, the time was right again, And right now we haven't found any type. We've been growing and expanding and trying to do that and we're grow the real business, not the NFC.
Speaker 1:Does that mean that opulence is on a growth trajectory? Talk to me a little bit about whatever you're comfortable sharing on that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so we are for sure We're up to I think we're close to 50 clients now. Oh, hell, yeah, dude, which is awesome.
Speaker 1:Let me give the context, because I can see the site but any listener wouldn't. Yeah, it's opulence, lifestyle management, and to me, when I see it and then I want you to tell me where I'm right or wrong I look at it like concierge level experience. I'm seeing things like travel reservations, personal shopping, that like connecting with opulence would be. you guys could intake potentially my dream and then help me make it a reality. How close or how shitty did I get that?
Speaker 4:No, i mean it's pretty close, so we're on a monthly fee. It's just easy for everybody. Nowadays, the hockey world we have I said we, but the hockey world has a lot of money but nothing compared to what the other athletes that we competed with Right NFL NBA. Yeah, nfl and baseball. I mean these guys they're bench players are making 45 million and our number one player in the world, makes 13. You know what I mean? Like it's not. We're not even comparing apples to apples.
Speaker 4:So it's. We have to make sure that our you know it's affordable enough for our athletes. But then also, you know we are now into a little bit of baseball and that's just a different level of money. And then say, with football and you know we're getting bigger, we landed a massive, massive pitch, which I'm not.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I'm allowed to say or not.
Speaker 5:I don't know if we have an EAA.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't do it, don't do it.
Speaker 5:We don't want to. You did a good thing.
Speaker 1:We'll just know that it's someone we've we've probably heard of them.
Speaker 4:We can know that You've, you definitely have heard of them and he's an absolute monster And this and it's and when they're a client, they're in a monthly retainer and then they have access to what So yeah, so you get access basically to a, i'd say a personal assistant. but you get access to a personal assistant basically 24 seven. So where I have, like we're, i only so I don't do anything, that's probably the you're busy doing other shit.
Speaker 4:Right, then I have another life. So I got to worry about not just this. So I'm just the owner of it and I co-owner by the by. the other body owns it with me. But yeah, essentially you have access to him and he's probably the best in the business I've ever I've ever seen personally.
Speaker 1:I pity I pity that fly He just got the full force of that beef arm that he just lied Just laser.
Speaker 3:It wasn't a fly.
Speaker 4:It was a spider.
Speaker 3:Also dead, also dead creature.
Speaker 4:Sorry, so yeah, so no, he does. you know it's. it's really just getting access to him and making your life easy. So I'm busy a lot of the day, but my off season I'm really not. So during the regular season we fly from Carolina to Florida, we play one game in Florida, then we go right to Colorado, then to San Jose. Well, this is a long story short, but like you don't really want to go and like plan, four days in advance for every single dinner that you're going to want to go to right.
Speaker 4:So that's where you just for one price to one monthly price.
Speaker 1:He just does it, that's it.
Speaker 4:But, it's not just in our reservations, it's legit. Like you know, your wife wants a new couch, so we have access to different manufacturers and we have different stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh no, we have special pricing for our clients. Oh no, you just gave me life goals. And then Sinty was like no, i can't afford it yet, drew, i can't afford it yet. I need to do better.
Speaker 4:It's not too too bad.
Speaker 3:Drew said I saw his face. He said maybe you can.
Speaker 5:He said Craig, you want to do this.
Speaker 1:I do, but I need to sort that out. I need to sort that out.
Speaker 2:Craig you can do it. You can do it.
Speaker 4:Honestly, the awesome part about it is we just did a new CRM So it actually allows you to see real time data on what, how much you actually use it. So we have like a price per thing that you use. So, like you want to use a big, you want to use a big trip? Well, okay, so a big trip is actually about $100, where our reservation may only cost you. You know, whatever it is like $20, $50, $100.
Speaker 4:It's a scale, but when those but when those add up, then you see real time at the very end of the year. The way that we do our, the way that we would classify it as a, as a win would be for us and the client is if we were able to save you more money than you were actually able to spend for the year on what it cost to join us. It's a win for everyone. We saved you money.
Speaker 3:So, like here's a, this is well, i'll give you two more examples, real quick, and then I'll I'll drop this.
Speaker 4:So how I originally got into this was through my my buddy, but he was a. He got me. We went to Hawaii for our bi-week. It was like a four day trip and there was a. I let him set it up, but we had a connection at the Capalua Plantation. So it's beautiful resort. That's where they play the golf. I forgot that.
Speaker 4:The Sony open and it's awesome. Well, we had like one of the best rooms at the whole entire night. Usually it's like $3,800 a night for the room and we got it for the Let's go see you even get deals. So so that's where we're like, okay. well then, I'll just do it Like we'll do two nights there at $1,600, as opposed to a cold grand. Well, that right there is. that's a $4,000 savings, or $5,000 or $1,000 or whatever that is.
Speaker 1:The opulence has built. Not only so. You're saying, if you're looking at a year of using service, you're saving money multiple ways. Because I also view time equals money. That's a thing that I believe in my life, but I think it's cause I'm busy. I got busy with my businesses and all this. So time equals money and you can deploy money to afford for time. But you're talking about that's the way I thought you meant it. You're saying no, no, no. Literally. We have better relationships with people. Hard, hard doll hairs you will save.
Speaker 4:Right, yeah, i mean as much as time.
Speaker 1:Is awesome for you, me, there's people that don't give me the shit about that. They're off already.
Speaker 4:They're done. All they want is dead and now, like I have a buddy who's literally a multi-billionaire and he owns like 60 car dealerships.
Speaker 4:He's just rolling in cash And he wanted me to take him to an AP store which we know, one of the AP guys and we're like, yeah, sure, i'll take you to the Soho house in New York. So we go there and he's like, okay, i want this, this and this. And the guy's like can't. He's like fuck, you mean I can't. And I'm sitting there and I'm just like, oh boy, this is not going to end. Well, i like watches, so I know what the market is and I know how hard they are to get.
Speaker 4:And he's sitting there and he's like no, i want that, that, that. And he's like sorry, like you have to own one of these.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's like an. NFT project You don't get the drop unless you got the top one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, i kind of. And so then he's like okay, well, like what is that? He goes. well, that's like a two year waitlist before you get this one. He's like fuck you Just rocked out. I'm like I'm with him. I'm like sorry, i'm with him Literally that day. he was like hey, I need you to find me that watch. And I'm like okay, like let me make three phone calls. I literally made three phone calls, found my buddy who's an aftermarket guy. Found the fucking watch Over in California.
Speaker 1:Done.
Speaker 4:Got it down in the watch And I was like dude, it's like you know it's $45,000 or it's like I can get it between you right down for like 60. He's like 60. Done.
Speaker 1:Done Right, though, because it's an But that's how you made it.
Speaker 4:You saved him two years.
Speaker 1:Essentially, is what? the way I look at that The guy from the store was getting two years, like I feel like there's no application for that in most people's everyday life because they get lost in the numbers. But I actually think if you get away from the dollars, there are things like that that could even be grocery store level, what you're willing to grab, whether it's available or not. Or my wife sends me to go get like ketchup, right, well, what if they're out of Heinz? Well, i'll tell you. I'll tell you I cannot get the hunts It's trash.
Speaker 3:If I come home with the hunts, i have failed.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter if I come home with the fanciest organic everything hunts I have to go to another store, right? That's just no. No, the audience in that, in that story you shared, which I'm grateful you shared, that was awesome, like you knew, and this makes me feel like opulence just gets that when, when a client is an opulence client, they're just going to get what they want for the experience they want. Drew, do you? that resonates with me, stefan, because, like in my business, we believe that about client interaction, right, but every agency is different And mine it's harder, i would argue, to care that much, like as opulence does. It's a higher level of customer service. I've worked with companies and run companies where it's a little more automated than that, more arms distance. Drew, what's your kind of approach to like, I guess, client management, if you will? And then how did you take that from the agency world into building an NFT company which, again a little bit wild with, like how ripped the market was up and now we're down, but you're still cooking, so sorry, compound question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know It's good stuff. I mean, obviously there's. There's a lot there, Craig.
Speaker 2:Right, With us being agency owners, saving people, time and money is part of why people are in addition to oh yeah, and creating additional revenue streams or creating, you know, more return on what they're willing to invest in advertising and marketing. And yeah, so I mean that totally resonates with me. I think a lot of businesses are like that We're looking to solve issues and build relationships, right. And so, yeah, it's funny because before I met Steph, I was working, I had a client in a very, actually probably a competitor, Steph called 44 concierge, And so a lot of the same verticals, you know, saving time and money.
Speaker 2:they also kind of have a dedicated approach to helping athletes build brands and find opportunities for them to actually earn and have, you know, appearances. So, yeah, there's a lot of cool stuff in that vertical. But yeah, for us, you know, typically a brand would like to either have more sophisticated or effective marketing campaigns, whether that's digital advertising, spending on digital advertising, or we also do a lot of content work, right, So a lot of organic brand building through content and then utilizing that content to build out more campaigns, right with paid media. So, yeah, I know I think, Craig, you're more so on the web dev, web design side of the world, right?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, we do some similar things, but we just fundamentally believe there's so much work out there that there's almost no conflict. Like I work with Cairo's. I work with insurance law. Wedding became a weird vertical that we never intended to be in. But we got to Steph's point earlier. You get referrals, you get testimonials like you have good word of mouth.
Speaker 2:Totally.
Speaker 1:So we came to this weird thing where we're getting one of my buddies happens to work for one of the big wedding website aggregators and he's very high up their chain, so he kind of sends leads over, which is like a weird thing. It's all relationship building. How is your agency like your full time or your 50-50 between the two businesses Like I used to own? Pat and I met when I was a bartender at TGI Fridays, which is how I pivoted into my trivia business that he basically helped me build, he helped me build that. I don't do it anymore. It still runs. It's just kind of a small on the side. And how do you balance the agency life with the NFT company?
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally. There's a lot of alignment between the two, but it really is mostly agency work. That's how I'm generating and making a living and supporting myself. The NFT world came into play, like I said, out of the connection from one of our current clients at the time, but something that we did that was kind of interesting. Craig is in 2021, when we started building the project. It took us a couple months to figure out the whole system and the process generating art, smart contracts, website building, community, the time it takes in the virtual community. We kind of took this approach to instead of just fully or solely focusing on just putting out the NFT and marketing it, we kind of opened up and took our system and built other projects too.
Speaker 2:So kind of like that old adage, of like selling the shovels versus you know that picture.
Speaker 1:I've read these movies, the Pixing Shovel Shit. Like if you have something like that, not to plug opulence again, but like they're not selling the end thing that you could go get yourself, they're selling you the ease of getting anything you want, right? I like that aspect of that kind of business.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like a mastermind, right. You're kind of making this investment because you instantly when you join, you know when you're a client your network instantly becomes much better, right? So trying to get tickets to Taylor Swift or trying to go to the Masters or all these things that would, it would be really tough for you to try to do it on your own.
Speaker 4:They just connect your network right, I need it.
Speaker 2:I think there's a lot of things like that I fucking need it.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you I was thinking about following. No, maybe not, because I was looking at. You've heard of Wheels Up like the. I've heard of them and I already talked to my business partner like that, when we start more things need to happen. I can't be Southwestern brother, i can't be doing that.
Speaker 4:You would need to join.
Speaker 1:We can get you better deals with. Wheels Up Right. That's why I'm going to say like I may not be there yet, my man, but I definitely want to know where we're talking about monthly, because I want to add that to my goal of board because that's the type of shit Time equals money. Sorry, Drew, I didn't mean to like keep going.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, dude, you're 100% on. Last thing I'll mention is you know, when it comes to that split, you know, like I said, i'm still really day to day on my agency work, meta athletes. You know we had incredible mints. We did pretty well from a business standpoint, but ultimately what we're doing with meta athletes is it's really a purpose project, it's really to generate impact, building this narrative that you know, if we truly wanted to level up in our lives professionally, mentally, physically.
Speaker 2:You know reaching out to Steph and being like, hey, dude, you know I'm trying to like get dialed in nutrition wise. He obviously has a ton of wisdom and knowledge through his experience, but there are people out there that train Steph. There's people out there that train the number one, you know, athletes and high performers in the world. So the narrative of meta athletes is to bring those resources direct to a community, and so we brought in, you know, directors who performed many HL teams, nba teams, some of the top trainers and NCAA And ultimately, what we're doing is we're bringing these mentors directly to somebody, and you can find this information on the internet, yeah, but it's different when you're in a community of I hate to use a fucking buzzword that in the space but the reality is there are people.
Speaker 1:whether I'm paying a service like Opulence, or whether I'm buying a meta athlete, i'm entering into an ecosystem where there would be assistance for something.
Speaker 2:It's the network effect, like you're mentioning. The community aspect is certainly. You know, if we want to get better with staying down into our fitness, let's surround ourselves with people who are also trying to or already dialed into their fitness right. So the network effect for accountability, but I totally agree with you because it's you get a coach And I think you know having a coach is something that's so significant, whether it's for accountability or for the education purpose. But for myself, like growing up an athlete, you know having a coach is something that I've always seen, that whether it's a business, coach.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, dude, i have multiple coaches nutrition coach, i have multiple mentors and multiple coaches, and I improved my performance. I know it's all like typing type shit, but I improved it all based on those coaches that you're talking about And like. Well, I will say this though Stefan, do you what's your take on the impact of coaches? Just because I think you'll have such an interesting perspective as a pro athlete.
Speaker 4:Well, coaches, make or break you, gensley, i've had, i've been on a lot of teams in my life, that's because you're good enough that you keep going.
Speaker 1:Some people don't make it dude, you're already multiple. It could also go out brother.
Speaker 4:They go away. Yeah, but it could also be a bad thing.
Speaker 1:It's probably because you're too handsome. It's because you're too fucking handsome.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, it's probably because I have no teeth.
Speaker 5:I mean, that's probably a different issue, but I would say not related to coaching.
Speaker 1:No, Pat, he's probably smart enough?
Speaker 3:He's probably smart enough to wait till the hockey career is over.
Speaker 1:To fix them. That's the play.
Speaker 5:That's probably why I've ruined like stuff that's in there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, that's. yeah, that's actually the new play as of this year, Because, again, when don't we fly? you wait through, don't we fly?
Speaker 1:him to Arizona, so that Dr Nick like so yeah, don't we do that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we welcome up, we can play at Santa.
Speaker 1:Well, absolutely. It's what he does, though, and he's wait, you're actually good at it, though.
Speaker 2:You actually should So like I've looked.
Speaker 1:I had a combo with him like an off the record one. he's going to come on the pod Like he's fucking good at that, Dennis stuff, He's fucking good at it. So like what a cool, what a weird thing that could come out of the GC as well. I'm sorry, keep talking coaches, coaches. I know.
Speaker 4:No, no, you're good, no, so, my well, so I mean I've had, i've had some very interesting coaches in my career And for I was a kid where they would know how to push my buttons the right way, because to people doing it too much and nowadays it's all I mean this generation, i mean you guys are a little bit older like me, so I could say about the generation soft as hell, like you're soft.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and I wish, because I actually had to learn it this past year because I was one of the older I was like the second oldest guy on my team and Liners last year, where we want to win their, we want our champions Congrats And yeah, thank you. And I am like I'm like in your face, like I'm like very direct and you guys see, some of the shit I say in the group chats It's not as very direct.
Speaker 4:That's good man He's blood And yeah, i mean, yeah, blood, the bloods can't be good in bad. But I, you know, very adamant on that. So when these kids is like you know, if you fuck up, you better own that. You fucked up and you better go out there and show me that you're not going to do it again, well, these kids, you can't do that, you have to legit be like it's okay, i forgive, you, go do this now. And they're like, okay, okay, like fuck off, like just go. But that's, that's part of the coaching, right? So like I my coach last year like I'm coming, i would come into the room and I was a captain, so I would go in there into his office, big, this motherfucker this month I'm fucking explode.
Speaker 4:And he was just looking at me and be like, if you do that, they're gonna just gonna shut down and we will have no room, nobody else but you and I'm like, well, okay, so then it's all, but it's all learning And so, like having an appropriate coach to kind of guide you and tell you and help me, help them is huge. And hockey I know that for a fact And I mean I have a. You know I don't ever train for this But like I, i love cycling, so cycling.
Speaker 1:Oh nice, one of my new things that I've been really into, that's the thin tires, right, the dangerous as fuck thin tires that looks like you're going to fall over, yeah, and you just yeah, the Tour de France actually going on right now.
Speaker 4:But then you, then you just rip And I love it, it's so much fun. Like well, i have a buddy right now who's trying to compete and he just did a half marathon and he's trying to do his cycle. He wrote 60 miles.
Speaker 1:It took him three hours And I'm like, all right, well, I just got a free in my mid section Just thinking about it goes and then you just rip And it's like no but it goes from 32 year old, out of shape, former high school hockey player just died inside I have to walk up the stairs of my daughter.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, it's on a break, no, but like, even doing that, like we've got, i've got my my personal trainer that I had from what I was living in Michigan. He's an Iron Man by trade, so I don't know if you guys know anything about Iron Man's, but Iron Man's are the cycling, the swimming and the running I saw a really awesome story made me cry of a guy that does him and he pushes his son who has, i believe, cerebral palsy or I believe that's what
Speaker 1:it is. It was all over the internet because the girl this is kind of a funny, weird tie into our marketing background The sister of that guy, so daughter of the dad is a very successful content creator, an NFL content creator. Annie Gar is, i think, her name And it's her brother and father. So the reason I know so much about Iron Man is I got I cried watching that because, like, is he not what you would like, the vision of what a dad would be if you were put in a bad situation like that, and what you'd want to achieve for your kid? So sorry to get long winded there, but that's the only reason I know what an Iron Man is, cause I watched that video and I fucking cried Yeah.
Speaker 4:Well, that's, i mean it's. think about that, think about number one doing it. It's a two and two and a half mile swim 112 miles. Yeah, he's pulling his son in the middle of the thing behind him He's swimming And then a 26 mile run and then running and doing all that while pulling and doing that. Now, I don't know if he does that, if he pulls his son through the water.
Speaker 5:I saw him on that boat. Yeah, it's like a little, he's like a strappy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Okay, Oh wow, It's like a it looks like a kayak.
Speaker 1:Sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he's just like a little strap like to him, And then he attaches it to like the raft type thing behind him And he just goes, jeez.
Speaker 1:What is that? You know what that is, though, cause he's not like as physically fit as you, he's got the, the mentals of like. I will not stop. I will not be defeated. I will just continue stroking until I die.
Speaker 4:Well, those guys are a lot more physical in shape than I am.
Speaker 1:believe me, I could skate, but I mean you don't, I can't do that, So wait. so that's a different type of athleticism is what you're sharing there. So, because I would.
Speaker 1:I'm going to sound dumb here. I wouldn't have thought that because you're skating is so difficult, from my shitty version of I'm from New York and I would do like a skating rink, you know what I mean And I would get tired instantly. So you're saying like, while you are obviously a successful pro hockey player, that Ironman stuff is on a different level, so would they need different coaches even to get them there?
Speaker 4:Right. Well, and that was kind of my point is like my, my, so my trainer who does hockey. He played hockey at Northern Michigan but he does all the Ironman stuff as well And that's like what he's really good at. He's done multiple Ironman. He's just not freaking nature. Like having different types of coaches to guide you. You know, one coach works well for you, two well, we're all for me, one we're well for you, one we're over Pat, one for Drew. And like my mentality is could be different than the way your things and it's the way the years think, and same with Pat. You know, like having different coaches being able to bounce the ideas off of if you don't, if you're like getting what this guy or lady or whoever they them putting down, then you know individual that that guy, then yeah, the individual human being, yeah, the organism.
Speaker 1:I think it's a word. No, we can't say human, can't say that We got to go Mammals.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a mammal now. Yeah, You know that's. That's kind of this the way it is, And no, i think that's.
Speaker 1:I appreciate you sharing that and Drew, you were the catalyst of that, because the coaching, that whole segment, came from what you were saying And do you use, like now you're no longer in direct athletics, meaning like you're not a pro sports person. But you mentioned business coach, which is something fairly new to me. We bought courses back years ago that were very successful. We've elevated that over the last couple years And and I I'm new to it And now I'll never not have it right, like this is a weird thing where, like, i'm a little addicted to having these people that are on your side when, when the rest of life can feel very much not that way, because shit can just happen, right, whether it's the weather, whether it's a situation, whether it's a kid getting sick, is that like? how do you view the continuity of keeping coaching in one's life in different aspects?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you know, me and Coach B, we did a today's Wednesday, we did a podcast on Monday, and you know the base of the podcast was what is mentorship? what does it mean to us? and you know how do we seek out mentors in our life, right. And so when I think of coaches, it's a source of mentorship, right. And we kind of broke it down into there's a certain level of experience you know that somebody has that can be shed onto you, is saving you time and money, things that we talked about earlier. There's a certain level of care and I think that ties into a lot what Steph's talking about in terms of is this person willing to understand me at a level that knows you know how to motivate me or what demotivates me and then how to stay away? Really just is. It's also leadership, right. I think you and I, craig, like, when we seek out these business mentors, we're seeking out strong leaders that can shed some experience, that care about us, right. So that's what we kind of like broke down mentorship to And, yeah, for a lot of people it could look really different. You know, like within meta-athletes, having these mentors available could mean better sleep habits, it could mean nutrition. It could mean dialy-ing nutrition. It could be giving you the proper understanding of how to take everybody from, like, a physical standpoint, right. So we view it as coaching, but really at the heart of it, it's mentorship, where we truly do care right, and I think that that is the ultimate factor.
Speaker 2:And we were just interviewing Devontaev it was probably two weeks ago. We had him podcast and I kind of asked him you know, like, what is it about a coach that gets you, you know, really interested, or gets you going, or what Devontaev demotivates you? and he said that he really enjoys when people are learning to understand that right, and technically, anybody could do it right, like anybody could be a mentor and a coach from the standpoint of having experience. But I think the care part is I think what separates a great coach from a decent one, right, you could be an incredible skill coach and teach people how to do things, but if you don't take that next step to understand you know, what is it going to take for this person to grasp it, run with it, own it and make it their own, then, you know, could you be in a more effective coach, right? And so Coach B is like such a prime example for me, because you know he was teaching me all the things He's.
Speaker 1:The next level, though, with the empathy and the compassion. He's incredible And maybe that's to even both of your points, that that level of like. There's a psychological element to the best coaches of how they can, to Steph's point, speak to people individually differently, all on the same team, and you kind of have to if you want to actually get the team kind of cohesive that way.
Speaker 1:And Coach B was on pod and I always like he's the most retweetable dude, i think, on Twitter, just because the knowledge if more people were, i think, receptive and because we're in a bit of an echo chamber of the NFT space, i worry that, like, more people don't know that you can get direct access to him free on Twitter. You can get direct access to him in your Discord, like isn't it the Discord where a lot of these conversations are happening, or am I wrong and it's on the website?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's primarily Discord Twitter. You know we put out a ton of resources with a lot of it's scalable. This year we implemented something that we call Coach B, so anybody that holds a meta athlete has access to go in there and get one-on-one consulting with. You know a top. He's been recognized as the top trainer in the country.
Speaker 1:So Coach B goes to a per wait a minute. I think I misunderstood that, even because I hold Yeah, I was going to ask this question too.
Speaker 5:I got a gift one. I was going to ask this question because I'm entity stupid.
Speaker 3:So Yes, no, go ahead Pat.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so I listened to the Coach B pod prior to coming on here because I didn't want to look like a complete jackass and not know like the format of things Basically my life is.
Speaker 5:I just try to like, meander through and not seem like a complete idiot. But as a Drew, you and I are linked in this, this former athletics. my wife and I just moved from Florida, north Carolina, right, because it was too hot there and now all of a sudden it's too hot here. But I'm trying to get back into hockey and I'm relying on, like old high school Pat workouts And I've learned that 32 years old Pat does not operate on the same level as 16 to 18 year old Pat. He's very different, much fatter, and it takes time to move things. So if I held with held one of these meta athletes, what would buy print? And I was like, look, i want to get back in shape for hockey, i just want to be in a beer league. I don't want to even look in Stefan's direction.
Speaker 1:But you want to dominate that beer league, right?
Speaker 4:You want to dominate that part of me that wants that.
Speaker 5:But then there's the other side of me. That's like, that's the way I have a 17 month old, a 16 month old daughter. Can I commit the time to being able to dominate that beer league? Yes, i can. I need to do it Totally. Please tell me how to do this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's, it's. you bring up a lot of good things. The first one is, yeah, at least two points per night beer league. You go into coach spot and you tell coach, hey, you know, this is my background, this is kind of like where I've been recently. This is my goal set.
Speaker 2:You know, coach will come back to you. He probably want to understand your why. And part of that why is, maybe it's family life, maybe it's, you know, like on a much deeper level, what is going to get you to actually take action and motivate yourself. You know, for not just a week or two weeks, but for for a longer period of time. Right, so there's a deeper kind of connection that coach B is going to want to connect you to. What is it that's going to make you commit to this? I think in terms of like the short term, of like you getting back into shape and wanting to feel like you're effective and you're, you know, contributing to the team, even if it's beer league, you know he probably, he probably put you on. You know, four to six week, you know program. That that's really based off of what resources you have.
Speaker 1:You're saying this will just Jim out in the home gym. That I or it's a real person, this coach bot.
Speaker 2:Coach bot is essentially a chat bot where anybody can come in and drop what they're looking for, and then it's going to assign you a coach from within our network Right now, right now, most likely coach B, and so what happens is that then becomes a one on one consulting.
Speaker 1:I do not understand that. I apologize. This is for this. I'm going to be in the dummy again. Like I didn't know, steph was a pro athlete. I did not know that And like I didn't fucking know.
Speaker 2:So but it's interesting that you guys bring that up because that idea that you guys have. So, as we create more and more podcast content and this is something that we've we've actually developed from the the Huberman's lab podcast they created an AI chat bot that syncs up content, information from his podcast on YouTube and actually drive. So if you came in and you're like you had a question, you can train it to actually pull from our podcast content and spit out answers. but this is this is just a way for because we only have a couple of. we have like up to 500 holders And out of the 500, there's only a handful of people that are looking for these resources when it pertains to, like a specific situation like yours, pat, and so you would go in, you would type the chat bot and it's essentially you know, craig, you probably understood this a little bit better It's just a, it's like a ticket support bot. That's essentially what it is.
Speaker 2:that's been rebrated as a code train And you got a one on one with coach Opens up a ticket, coach sees it, he, he gives you the information that's needed And then now our team has a direct way to check in because of this ticket. You know, if you, if you opened it today, in two weeks I can go in there and be like dude Pat have you been seeing this plan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's all true, like that's like you're treating them like customers in an experience. It opens up this one on one. Yeah, oh, I like that.
Speaker 2:So that's that's what we loved about. You know, building this concept is it's one. It's very applicable to somebody's example of whatever goals that they're looking to to build out, but you're getting the best mentor and resource almost possible as a high, as a high performer or somebody that would like to treat themselves like a high performer, and so you know this. This whole conversation ties really well into mentorship and coaching and you know, This is the mentorship episode.
Speaker 1:Drew, you got the title. This is the mentorship episode. This is the mentorship episode no-transcript.
Speaker 2:But, but yeah, that's, that's essentially what you'd be getting, pat. And then it also, you know, if you were to do that and you're just like, hey, maybe you're a little bit, you know, you don't want to put it out there to the whole group, but you want mentorship and coaching. that's what CoachBot is for. Otherwise, you would shoot the message out to the whole group and the community. Now you're going to have a couple hundred people that are like I know Pat is looking to get back in shape, or I know Pat is looking to get back in hockey. You now have this like support group. You now have these like these people that'll wake up and be, you know, send you a good morning and like making sure that you're staying on track, and so you combine community support with expert coaching. Now you kind of have no, no excuse for you know, because you understand what to do. And now you have people that are, you know, kind of checking in on you and keeping you accountable.
Speaker 5:So that's kind of our risk-efficient success. That accountability factor makes a huge difference for me, just because I feel like I get lost with the daughter and then my wife once time and like I still have to work during the day and it's like sure, man, When do I actually get a time to focus on me? So?
Speaker 2:yeah, there's one more thing I want to throw in there. So you know, we're able to kind of get this real feedback results, like whether it's because some being our Twitter group message or something where they have questions that they DM us, but parents finding the time for workouts was like number one issue that we're having because we were developing these unbelievable workouts.
Speaker 1:I'm struggling with it myself.
Speaker 2:And you know you have a whole calendar, you have everything, but everybody's like this might take me an hour, or I can't drive to the gym today, so I don't have access to these equipment. So we created a guide, or not a guide. We created a program specifically for parents, with the idea of being that you could finish a workout in 20 minutes, and it can be done anywhere at any time, and it'll be as ripped as death.
Speaker 1:I'll look like that, right. Is that the deal?
Speaker 2:Is that the guarantee? Absolutely, yeah, but we call it body by be, and yeah, absolutely. You know most of it. You'll tell you. The first thing is like, it's not about what you do, it's about what we're bringing into our bodies. You know a lot of things that we put out in terms of resources. Pat, or it's the we would call them like the foundation blocks.
Speaker 1:He says we got to eat better.
Speaker 2:Pat.
Speaker 5:We're eating trash, definitely eating trash, definitely eating trash.
Speaker 1:Everybody does dude, Everybody does Like I don't understand How much is the nutrition ridiculous to like you have to. Is that 80% of it?
Speaker 4:Well, I can. I can tell you this as much as I work out, as much as I do, i wish I'd like cleaner food.
Speaker 3:Word.
Speaker 4:Because I would be way, way cleaner than what I actually am by actually like eating soup. What do you think? What do you think That's 90, that's 90% of it.
Speaker 1:Oh, shit 90. That was 80. But what do you think? what do you guys think Drew eats to make his hair look like?
Speaker 5:this. I was gonna say, man, if this is a video, episode.
Speaker 4:It's obscene, that's some, that's some, true, is it like?
Speaker 3:is it true?
Speaker 2:It's not the food You just got to find the good barber.
Speaker 4:No shit, dude, The best barber will make so much, it's so much, barbers can't fix this.
Speaker 2:What the fuck, are you saying.
Speaker 3:We're definitely putting this video out there, barbers can't fix this shit.
Speaker 1:bro, are you kidding me? There's nothing, no barber.
Speaker 2:Step. look at this He's lying to our faces.
Speaker 1:No dude, i'm not, no no, no, no.
Speaker 2:My barber, i'm telling you he has this solution. It's like little carbon fibers And dude, it makes it, it makes it look like my beard is pretty rough.
Speaker 3:No, no, no no.
Speaker 4:You have hair And not just hair. We don't. We don't have hair, We don't have what you have, Dude.
Speaker 5:I am fighting so hard to keep this up. We don't have this, guys.
Speaker 4:I'm fighting so hard. There is no solution in the world that can fix crime.
Speaker 3:No, no, it's over. There's no solution in the world. It's over. You guys both have great beards.
Speaker 2:He just. I would just go full clean. Drew's got best of both worlds.
Speaker 5:He's got the hair and the beard.
Speaker 2:Have a nice one. You have a terrible beard. He's very handsome. That's why it is gone. I'm feeling good And I fight. I'm gonna come back on this podcast Fight. This is a good place to be.
Speaker 1:I've heard that drew and I will call due to that, if you'd like, if you're up for that I fucking heard that Drew Drew, drew Drew.
Speaker 2:Dude there's one thing I want to throw in there with the nutrition, because Steph said 90%. It's totally true. Any coach that really is looking out for your best interest and that's another factor of the mentorship that we talked about is, is a coach there for them or is the coach there for you? And that's a different factor of leadership of why are we trying to get people to do things? Is it for the better of them or the better of us? But the nutrition factor we just had a guy on who's the director of performance for Boston Ruins. I've heard of him And he was also talking about this. He was, he was. You keep Yeah.
Speaker 1:I love You're the best guy to name drop because it's not a bad. you don't come across like a douche when you do it. You don't come across.
Speaker 2:Oh, dude, it's never. It's never about me for sure. Like I'm. I'm fortunate And that's why even meta athletes in general, all the mentors, the resources that we have available, like I'm the one who benefits probably the most from, like, all the resources of bringing because I just surround myself with more and more knowledge and people holding me accountable. And you know, this guy came in and he was talking about the number one thing that parents could be doing for their youth athlete is squaring away what people are putting into their bodies. And he said that it's not just we think too much of like a body composition factor, not so much about how it affects the way that we think, how you know, how we feel and and what it's going to give to us in terms of energy or not provide energy. And it's a great, it's a great podcast. You know that we recently did that, just went live.
Speaker 1:Actually this morning. Is that now? which one is that? Is that you? That's the only one, pod, don't you?
Speaker 2:That's meta-athletes of playbook And that's where we bring on coaches and athletes and we shed a lot of information And actually our niche for the podcast is more directed towards mentorship, And so that's a great one that we put out there. Nft365 is the other one, But of course with the market cycle we're going every single day.
Speaker 1:That's so hard, dude, that's so hard to do. You know what I would be down to do if you ever wanted. it wouldn't have to be recorded like, but we could put it out if it was cool. I'd love to do some like coach bots and like show other people that experience. You may have already done that. You may have already done that.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah. So I think coach bot would be cool. I think also just kind of charming through some of the resources that we have available So people understand what it is that they're getting when they receive them or when they hold them at athlete. But yeah, dude, that nutrition factor, that'll be the number one thing. You know, Pat, if you get in there, you can just kind of tell from you know here and there He's going to be in there.
Speaker 1:I don't know, because I think I bought a couple. But I'm not. I'm a small bagger. We know that from our GC chat, But I have a very unique way of being able to massage those bags to whatever communities like are worth being in, and that's why I bought those. I bought those, i believe, on the pod with coach.
Speaker 1:B, it's just my life has been so crazy I haven't been able to spend the time I yet want to. But if my IRL friend, pat that's what you are You are an in real life friend. I do exist. I've semi-onboarded him, and by semi I mean like we traded. He had a couple NFTs, but I believe something like an atom bomb is when That's worth nothing anymore.
Speaker 5:You do, you do.
Speaker 1:Well, that's true now It used to be nothing.
Speaker 2:Hey, it's crazy you mentioned that because I was literally on their open seat earlier today, because I'm like you know what, if there's an NFC that's low range, that's probably going to come back, because the hundreds already was one of the truest 20 years.
Speaker 1:It has nothing to do with it, so I only have-. Well, I love this conversation, but I want to be respectful of both of your time And I only have one last question. that would be quick, other than if Pat has something he wanted to drop in. I just wanted to drop real quick.
Speaker 5:I wanted to ask Steph, because he's been quiet for a long time, and I'm curious, as someone who is younger than myself but is older, on a team that you're on in the vein of mentorship, how has that role have you kind of as a 30 year old athlete who is still obviously in peak performance and everything like that and dealing with this new generation of individuals what is that?
Speaker 5:How is that role kind of adapted to you? Do you find yourself in that role more? Do you see guys coming to you for advice on obviously to kind of loop it in with opulence and everything like that too On how to book things, how to stay ahead of stuff, how to make sure that all your shit gets somewhere on time? Have you been able to answer more of those questions now that you have this opulence? have this company, or do people come to you more for that kind of thing? And on ice in sport, do you find yourself being looked at more like how to take care of yourself in the off season and fit in time for family and your kids and things like that?
Speaker 4:I remember listening to like he might be frozen His internet went out, That's okay mine, was literally doing that.
Speaker 2:You jinxed it, Oh you know, what it is. You know what it is. I saw him go to that charger. Oh, that might have been the play Pat would I love about that. It was a wonderful question that we'll never answer?
Speaker 5:Yeah, i actually do, because it is what happens.
Speaker 1:We get to invite him back If he pops back in. I don't know if he's back. Oh, he's back, But no so. Steph, did you hear any of?
Speaker 4:that A lot of it. yeah, As long as the hair is pretty.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, yeah, we can go with it. Technology.
Speaker 3:Technology. What are you doing, tech? I cannot hear you doing tech.
Speaker 4:If I miss something, let me know. But you know.
Speaker 5:You know, his hair is still good, that's all that matters.
Speaker 4:Yeah to be on the improve line now. This is my year 10 or 11. Ep.
Speaker 5:Oh, it happened again, didn't it? It seems like it did. Here's the good news, Oh no, i'm processing.
Speaker 1:I'm buying you one now, pat, it's purchase processing, so just text me your. Oh shit he didn't know, we couldn't hear him. Technology's awesome. That's my bad. Your internet hates me personally, steph. It's victimizing us right now. If you can hear us, that's okay, even if you can't, and I will keep it in. If you can hear us, go ahead and answer. I will shut the fuck up. if you can hear us, yes, i think we're good.
Speaker 5:Yes, it looks away, Yep.
Speaker 1:Here's my favorite thing. I'm having so much fun. I hope you guys are too. I'm not committing you to more necessarily, but I heard what you said. It went in my ear. My last question that I will ask, and then we'll figure out if Steph comes back Drew is in honor of Ed, who's my bro. He's going to get his computer. I'm going to just do that because his thing is not helping. Oh, it won't. Let me. There it goes. No, it won't. Oh my. God Look, Drew, do you use Riverside?
Speaker 3:It sets me issue.
Speaker 1:Stephen N's browser preventing recording.
Speaker 3:It told me.
Speaker 1:It fucking told me that it won't let him. There you go It will not let him do it, fuck you.
Speaker 5:I think we're going to watch.
Speaker 3:Steph destroy a computer today I think it's what's going to happen?
Speaker 1:Oh my God, Steph, it's not your fault. It's not your fault, it's Riverside. Don't worry, it's not your fault, but I'll wrap and then we can talk. It is not. It is not, it is Riverside. I will screenshot and show you If you guys can hear me, because now we'll see if Riverside is just totally broken. I need to know, in honor of Ed, your favorite movies. Give me two, max, three. Ed is a movie buff. His AI art for movie posters was dope. I need it, drew. You kick us off and then, if Steph can hear us, you can go after favorite movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a great question. Number one all time for me is wedding crushers. I can watch that movie at any time, any day. I love wedding crushers And then sports movie. I think Miracle is all time for me. It's just a classic sports hockey movie. Yeah, i'll go with those two, craig. I think those two are my top for sure.
Speaker 1:What about you, Pat, before we see if Steph because Riverside's saying he would have to refresh, I don't know It feels right Tell me if you can hear me. Tell us your favorite movie and I'll repeat it, just in case it's not recording For those of you that didn't hear that, because it will not record. Stefan right now he hears us but the people won't. Step Brothers was the pick and then he might be sharing a second when I apologize, Steph.
Speaker 2:Let's kick this guy out here. Let's just kick him out. I'm not contributing to the podcast, right?
Speaker 1:now, how long do y'all know each other? That was funny.
Speaker 2:No, we've onlyme and Steph. We got pretty close, but we've only known each other for probably a few months now. But that's what happened?
Speaker 1:Ed and I met about a year ago and we became very close friends and talking through life type shit, he'll come back and not be mad. So, wedding crushers, step Brothers, miracle Pat, do you have a movie?
Speaker 4:to add to this moment.
Speaker 1:For me it's Guardians, volume 3, because I just saw it and I have recency bias. It's a me problem, not a you problem. It was very good. I cried real tears, Pat go ahead.
Speaker 5:So on all the time. watch and it's off the wall, but it just growing up. It holds a special place in my heart Elf. I will watch Elf any time of the year. I find it hilarious.
Speaker 1:We got a lot of feral and comedy.
Speaker 5:I like that, and then if we're going another one, i'll say because we haven't done it other than your Guardians. I'll say Thor Ragnarok, i find it hilarious, love it, it's a good one. Good times, good times.
Speaker 1:Well, Pat, thanks for Oh Drew, go ahead, Go ahead. You have one more thing to add?
Speaker 2:So I've never met Ed, but I feel like I want to throw in there, because there's two movies I've seen recently that are on real movies, so I want to throw in case he hasn't seen them, but Air which is the Metal Dawn story with Inconstrument.
Speaker 3:Is it streaming it? Yeah, amazon Prime. Oh, you guys just gave me a good gift for the evening.
Speaker 1:I like Damien and Nath like too.
Speaker 2:I'll admit it. Oh, dude, they were awesome, but there's even one that I think might even So, like Air was huge, because I love that story and just like the sports connotation. But Tetris Also on the radar, oh my.
Speaker 4:God we're, we're already.
Speaker 1:We're GC buddies. We're in real life dapped up buddies. We got reviews now.
Speaker 2:We got the weather reviews. now The recommendations are starting to get flowing.
Speaker 1:We're starting to put it together I cannot thank you guys enough.
Speaker 1:Pat, for being my friend for as long as you are and for joining Drew, Stefan like really, really true gratitude for you hanging with us on this. It's just so fun to take conversations from a group chat, bring them into real life and wrap it all up, And if any of the listeners enjoyed it, you know would love a review, would love you to say something nice, but it's okay if you don't too. If you just like it and want to hang out, you could check us out on Twitter. I would recommend you checking out joinopulencecom, for if you want any context of what we talked about earlier, Meta-athletes I believe the website I had it up is meta-athletes-nftcom. I'm going to link this shit, though I'm not going to make it like someone can memorize that shit.
Speaker 2:You're a pro.
Speaker 1:It'll go into the show notes And, more importantly though, when Pat texts me after the recording, i am sending him number 368 that I just bought, so that he will be in there to play with chat about push-bots. I'm not a pro coach but So thank you, thank you, thank you guys.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. No, i appreciate you guys, and Pat would love to connect with you after the pot too and get to know you a little bit better too. So we'll get connected, correct?
Speaker 4:Thanks for having me man.
Speaker 1:You guys were awesome.
Speaker 2:It was fun, i was talking to his laptop and it was eventful.